Q4Max released!

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:42 pm

Justin Thyme wrote:O'dium, I'm with you. I haven't figured out why hacking the game to make things easier makes you "pro". Now I will say that there needs to be better color seperation of the existing skins for team play, but anything more drastic than the Q3 traditional red and blue is just a cheat.

Ok, so perhaps it's a cheat that a segment of the community accepts, but it's a cheat. A rose by any other name....

Couldn't agree more. Hopefully PB will allow for control of the range of vars on a server like it did in Q3 so admins can decide.

Post by **Oeloe** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:31 pm

@ Screenshot above: still sucks balls. The author took bright 'skin' too literal!! :icon27: :icon13: Bah, trash the stupid plastic soldier and make a proper skin that makes only the armor green.

If the skins that were in the first release are still available in this release i wouldn't really mind though, but refuse to fight plastic soldiers.

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:38 pm

Haha, no way guys, that skin up in that screenie is perfect. It's how green keel looked, easily picked out from the backgrounds.

Post by **Fjoggs** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:53 pm

Keel did not look like that. The pm skins were actual skins, these are just glowing matrix freaks.

Post by **Death_Gun** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:59 pm

anyone take a shot from a dark area. i want to know i the brighterskin will be afected by the local ilumination (hope not ocourse).

Post by **MidnightQ4** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:00 pm

I would be down for something with a little more vairation, aka not one solid color, but only if it was still super dayglow

Just my preference, I like to see neon bodies running around the map so I can rail them in the ass with ease.

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:32 pm

Fjoggs wrote:Keel did not look like that. The pm skins were actual skins, these are just glowing matrix freaks.

Oh well whatever, it looks good enough to me when comparing.

Post by **MidnightQ4** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:37 pm

riddla wrote:here we go, and add a CTF blue to this variation and a few bright colors and voila.

mmm needs to be glowing though. not bright enough. I want to see it when i wear my sunglasses at night. :icon31:

Post by **Oeloe** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:48 pm

Oeloe wrote:About those coloured weapon models (red one in the picture): because of the lack of simpleitems, someone (Drexciyian) made coloured weapon skins. I don't remember where i saw his screenshots though.

Found it in my FF history.

Drexciyian posted these screenies at ESR:

I wouldn't use this though.

Post by **Justin Thyme** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:52 pm

riddla wrote:here we go, and add a CTF blue to this variation and a few bright colors and voila.

I think riddla hit the nail on the head! :icon31:

Post by **Oeloe** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:53 pm

DRuM wrote:Haha, no way guys, that skin up in that screenie is perfect. It's how green keel looked, easily picked out from the backgrounds.

Green Keel had green armor; he wasn't made of glow in the dark rubber like the dildo's of people that like this.

Post by **MidnightQ4** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:48 pm

hey come on now don't hate on dildos!

seriously though, not to offend anyone, but I have found in my observations that the more pro ppl are the more they want glowskins, and the ppl who are the most against them tend to be the hide in the corner noobies.

Post by **D'Artagnan** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:04 am

Can someone send me the program; q4max, cause i tried to register to the site, but they didnt answer me yet, 2 days ago !!!
dan1407@hotmail.com

Or give me another link that you don't need to register...

Post by **D'Artagnan** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:17 am

OK, i got it from http://www.gotfrag.com/

Post by **DRuM** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:56 am

ffs, let's not get pedantic, it doesn't matter if it's not exactly like keel, it's still bright and easily seen. Which is far better than the shitty colour the models are at the moment.

Post by **DRuM** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:19 am

It's beginning, 6th server down. Q4max started up as soon as I clicked join. Couldn't connect though, said I'm missing some files. No idea what though.

Post by **Oeloe** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:53 am

dan1407 wrote:Can someone send me the program; q4max, cause i tried to register to the site, but they didnt answer me yet, 2 days ago !!!
dan1407@hotmail.com

Or give me another link that you don't need to register...

Most likely hotmail's spam filter. Hotmail sucks.

Post by **Eraser** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:58 am

DRuM wrote:
Fjoggs wrote:Keel did not look like that. The pm skins were actual skins, these are just glowing matrix freaks.
Oh well whatever, it looks good enough to me when comparing.

While I get that in the end it's all about visibility and not good looks, there is a huge difference between these ugly q4max skins and the CPMA pmskins.

In the pmskins only the armor was colored. The joints and skin aren't colored. That makes things slightly more natural looking. These plastic toy soldiers look like the author just either didn't have a clue what he was doing or couldn't be arsed to make proper skins and just wanted two minutes of fame by being the first to make brighter skins.

Post by **Grudge** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:23 am

We need proper brightskins, that is just a crappy 5 minute hack job.

Post by **^misantropia^** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:53 am

Eraser wrote:In the pmskins only the armor was colored. The joints and skin aren't colored. That makes things slightly more natural looking. These plastic toy soldiers look like the author just either didn't have a clue what he was doing or couldn't be arsed to make proper skins and just wanted two minutes of fame by being the first to make brighter skins.

PM skins require a hack in the code to work and the SDK hasn't been released yet. Having said that, the skins are fugly, yes, but effective.

Post by **Eraser** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:59 am

^misantropia^ wrote:
Eraser wrote:In the pmskins only the armor was colored. The joints and skin aren't colored. That makes things slightly more natural looking. These plastic toy soldiers look like the author just either didn't have a clue what he was doing or couldn't be arsed to make proper skins and just wanted two minutes of fame by being the first to make brighter skins.
PM skins require a hack in the code to work and the SDK hasn't been released yet. Having said that, the skins are fugly, yes, but effective.

The code change is only required to make the color adaptable. I don't think the color for the brightskin is adaptable in Q4Max, or is it? And I'm not talking about 10 different color sets, but a variably settable color.

Post by **Oeloe** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:17 pm

Grudge wrote:We need proper brightskins, that is just a crappy 5 minute hack job.

In the alpha 0.3 release of Q4max they included the different original textures but with a green hue all over. In the current version there is no texture, but just an entirely green 1024x1024 square.

So the texturing part of Q4max is a 2 second job rather than a 5 minute job.

Maybe some of the other 'hacks' that are included are more useful but if they aren't, i'm forgetting about this 'mod'.