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Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:19 am

a friend of mine wants an upgrade, he just got into playing wow.

so i need to decide what is more important, the CPU, or another videocard.

So here comes the question, is WOW more dependant on GFX? or Cpu?

i have a feeling its more dependant on GPU's.

anyway, just for refrence i am leaning more towards his GFX card.
this is his current spec's

Amd XP 2200+ ( 1.8GHZ ) paired with a ATI 9600LE

again, i am leaning more towards the Videocard more then anything, i just want to make sure.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:11 am

You should have at least 1 gig of ram for WOW.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:28 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:a friend of mine wants an upgrade, he just got into playing wow.

so i need to decide what is more important, the CPU, or another videocard.

So here comes the question, is WOW more dependant on GFX? or Cpu?

i have a feeling its more dependant on GPU's.

anyway, just for refrence i am leaning more towards his GFX card.
this is his current spec's

Amd XP 2200+ ( 1.8GHZ ) paired with a ATI 9600LE

again, i am leaning more towards the Videocard more then anything, i just want to make sure.

you know who to PM. just do it.

btw, the answer to your IM question last night. "yes"

Post by **Canis** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:53 am

Just ask him how much money he's willing to spend, and then get the best damn system/components in that price-range.

Post by **Tormentius** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:30 pm

Soapboy is the most qualified person to ask :icon9:

Post by **dzjepp** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:12 pm

The system reqs. are like 800hmz cpu, so it should run fine on that system? Now, who knows if the same can be said when theres 60-100ppl on the screen at once... tell him to play on medium and stuff, and no extra candy like aa&af.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:37 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:a friend of mine wants an upgrade, he just got into playing wow.

so i need to decide what is more important, the CPU, or another videocard.

So here comes the question, is WOW more dependant on GFX? or Cpu?

i have a feeling its more dependant on GPU's.

anyway, just for refrence i am leaning more towards his GFX card.
this is his current spec's

Amd XP 2200+ ( 1.8GHZ ) paired with a ATI 9600LE

again, i am leaning more towards the Videocard more then anything, i just want to make sure.

Ram and CPU dependent for any major city, or raiding events.. while GPU helps its not the be end all for performance..

That 9600LE will do ok in 1024x768 in med detail with no AA or anything on..

Id personally suggest 1.5gigs or more of ram if its going to be played for anything end game, 40 man raids can be quite taxing and youll need that help from the memory..

Cpu, should again be ok, id just keep an eye on framerates.. while quake requires a solid 125 for the most part, WoW is very playable in the 15-20fps area in most cases..

Any other questions? lemme know..

To put things into a view as a whole here..

Im running a AMD 64 3000, 7800GTX, 2gigs of pc3200 flat 2-2-2 muskin ram..

at peak time in major citys, i get anywhere from 30-60fps in 1280x1024 High detail with 8x aa running.. in heavy AOE raid stuff or major pvp i can dip into the low 20s sometimes high 10s.. Tho thats with 100+ things going on at once in a small area tho, so take it with a grain of salt..

Mind you, i get 100+ in outdoor areas with NOTHING going on..

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:22 am

yea, right now he is kicking 512megs of ram, and i think his budget is around 350 canadian.

so, picking up a 6600 GT for around 240.. and leaving the rest for ram ( Maby another gig ontop of his 512 ) should be good enough, right?

Thats my train of thaught in this situation.
but i wanted to post to make sure

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:29 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:yea, right now he is kicking 512megs of ram, and i think his budget is around 350 canadian.

so, picking up a 6600 GT for around 240.. and leaving the rest for ram ( Maby another gig ontop of his 512 ) should be good enough, right?

Thats my train of thaught in this situation.
but i wanted to post to make sure

Should be good to go then.. i know people playing on less.. it just sucks to play on a crappy system..

Post by **Deathshroud** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:50 pm

You will definitely see the biggest performance boost with 1 or more gigs of RAM. When you try to run it on 512 you get some nasty FPS drops from the HDD access.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:26 pm

lol, he just dropped a bombshell on me... two actually

i thaught he was using 512 megs of ram, turns out he is using 256 :/

and the second one is that he is giving me a $800 CDN Budget to build him a tower.. this is in the cards now

Amd 64 3200+
1gig OCZ DDR400 ( cas 2 )
Asus X800 256meg PCI-e
Asus A8n-SLI
Lg DVD-rw..

So, yea, thanksalo for the help gents.
i learned a little more about WOW... lol..

Post by **Canis** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:57 pm

Get two nvidia cards and SLI them together....that should hold him over for a few years. And screw the 3200+, go dual-core or bust...

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:17 pm

that with tax is 800.... and this is CDN..

so no canis... no

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:23 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:that with tax is 800.... and this is CDN..

so no canis... no

Get Nvidia for the SLI option later.. youll regret ATI in this case..

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:26 pm

thats a hard thing to go soap...

the situation:

6600GT 128meg PCI-E = $245
X800 256meg PCI-E = $255

and considering the X800 is quite a bit faster, its not really a regret at all..

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:30 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:thats a hard thing to go soap...

the situation:

6600GT 128meg PCI-E = $245
X800 256meg PCI-E = $255

and considering the X800 is quite a bit faster, its not really a regret at all..

Hm.. i suppose you might be right.. tho itll suck when he upgrades later and has to throw 400+ at 1 card just to throw another 400 at it later.. :-|

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:33 pm

i see your point,
i dont know, i will need to talk it over with him..

if i go with the ATI then i will probally back the Mobo off to the Non-sli Virsion of the A8N.

if he wants a 6600GT i will keep this mobo.

its his choice in the end, he is pritty AMD and ATI Bias

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:42 pm

btw, this is what i am talking about when i say the X800 is quite a bit faster.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/05/24/ ... page3.html

but you can allways point out the SLI'd 6600gt's

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:19 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:btw, this is what i am talking about when i say the X800 is quite a bit faster.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/05/24/ ... page3.html

but you can allways point out the SLI'd 6600gt's

Yep, which was the whole idea of getting nvidia with that board outright then later plot another 6600GT in there and have a nice upgrade

Post by **Psyche911** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:42 am

SOAP, no offense, but that's just bad advice.

By the time you upgrade to a 2nd card, there is a single card out that can get that performance. And after selling your old card and instead of buying a second one of those, you can get that new card. Not to mention, you'll save hundreds of dollars a year on electricity.

SLI is only beneficial for maximum performance NOW. For upgrades, it's just not what they want you to think it is.

P.S. Don't people have problems with SLI & WOW?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:51 am

i agree with psyche, that is why i am leaning towards the ati silution

Post by **Deathshroud** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:06 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:lol, he just dropped a bombshell on me... two actually

i thaught he was using 512 megs of ram, turns out he is using 256 :/

and the second one is that he is giving me a $800 CDN Budget to build him a tower.. this is in the cards now

Amd 64 3200+
1gig OCZ DDR400 ( cas 2 )
Asus X800 256meg PCI-e
Asus A8n-SLI
Lg DVD-rw..

So, yea, thanksalo for the help gents.
i learned a little more about WOW... lol..

How much is that OCZ RAM you're buying? Usually the OCZ RAM's are quite expensive, with little benefit. Try some Geil RAM ftw.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:53 am

Psyche911 wrote:SOAP, no offense, but that's just bad advice.

By the time you upgrade to a 2nd card, there is a single card out that can get that performance. And after selling your old card and instead of buying a second one of those, you can get that new card. Not to mention, you'll save hundreds of dollars a year on electricity.

SLI is only beneficial for maximum performance NOW. For upgrades, it's just not what they want you to think it is.

P.S. Don't people have problems with SLI & WOW?

NAh he can do as he pleases, i just personally would spend the extra cash on a NICE sli ready card.. instead of some ATI thing im gonna toss.. :-|

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