I have first handedly seen police do foul things to cover up their mistakes and make others look innocent/guility. I hope he rests in peace and I will laugh for eternity if the people who wanted him executed see him in heaven. Atleast he did do some good while he was still here. With the new evidence that was presented I really think that they should have allowed him a little more time, but executing him all goes along with the covering up type thing.
The impending execution of Stanley "Tookie" Willia
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So... Who Wants Smasht?
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im crying and i cant stop, these people on fox news explaining what he went through with no emotion! i cant believe what they did to him , it is a sad night, i pray for his soul and pray for the governor, for having to deal with the death of a innocent man , his blood is in his hands.Tookie you where brave, and now you are an angel, like the bible says you confess your sins and the lord will forgive you and you will enter the gates of the heavan. and that is will he will be. May you rest in peace, thank you for giving us hope,
I have first handedly seen police do foul things to cover up their mistakes and make others look innocent/guility. I hope he rests in peace and I will laugh for eternity if the people who wanted him executed see him in heaven. Atleast he did do some good while he was still here. With the new evidence that was presented I really think that they should have allowed him a little more time, but executing him all goes along with the covering up type thing.

I have first handedly seen police do foul things to cover up their mistakes and make others look innocent/guility. I hope he rests in peace and I will laugh for eternity if the people who wanted him executed see him in heaven. Atleast he did do some good while he was still here. With the new evidence that was presented I really think that they should have allowed him a little more time, but executing him all goes along with the covering up type thing.
So... Who Wants Smasht?
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I guess that we would have to come to an agreement as to the definition of justice. This will vary greatly, as should be tailored to satisfy the victim's family as well as the greater good of society. After all, in most crimes (imo), it is individuals rather than society at large that's harmed. I'll post more later, got shit to do at werk atm...Hannibal wrote:I'm sure most of us would feel the same, NS. The question I would have is this: How far can or should we go in using acute emotional reactions to traumatic events as part of the basis for conceptualizing justice?Nightshade wrote: So some say the death penalty is about retribution. So? Is there anything wrong with wanting too see the dirtbag that murdered a loved one put to death? If one of my family members was murdered and they caught the guy red-handed, I'd do everything I could to be able to shoot him myself. Call me barbaric, atavistic, whatever. Can any of you really say you wouldn't feel the same?
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Yes foo, read the whole fucking post...Foo wrote:Christ, do some reading will you?tnf wrote:My biggest fear, and something that I am fairly certain will occur at some point (if it hasn't already), is that an innocent man be executed and exonerated post-execution.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article ... =6&did=110
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you'll have to pardon my boy Foo. He doesn't realize what's going on, simply keeps viciously attacking his own foot creeping up on the bone of this argument.tnf wrote:Yes foo, read the whole fucking post...Foo wrote:Christ, do some reading will you?tnf wrote:My biggest fear, and something that I am fairly certain will occur at some point (if it hasn't already), is that an innocent man be executed and exonerated post-execution.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article ... =6&did=110
What's with the ragin hard on for me uniball?Underpants? wrote:you'll have to pardon my boy Foo. He doesn't realize what's going on, simply keeps viciously attacking his own foot creeping up on the bone of this argument.
looks like a cocktail stick poking out of an apple.
"Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that’s the best you can do."
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Massive Quasars wrote:
This is all that I require of the justice system, prevent a criminal from re-offending. Granted it's difficult to ascertain at this time if a criminal has been reformed, so erring on the side of safety may be required.
Yeah but our (Canadian) government doesn't do a great job of preventing re-offenses. For example, they recently released a sexual predator back onto the streets of Vancouver after he was quoted saying that he would reoffend and would do whatever it took to get sent back to prison. Honestly, wtf :icon27:
Edit: I think CP should be an option in some situations. IMO there are people who commit crimes terrible enough to warrant them being excised from our world like we would a cancer. That said, I don't believe CP should ever be a first option and should only be used in extreme cases (serial killers, child molestors, serial rapists, etc)
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Foo wrote:What's with the ragin hard on for me uniball?Underpants? wrote:you'll have to pardon my boy Foo. He doesn't realize what's going on, simply keeps viciously attacking his own foot creeping up on the bone of this argument.
looks like a cocktail stick poking out of an apple.
the "lightpole-sized" part before the cocktail stick statement is somehow missing
Yer, that was pretty well written.riddla wrote:I usually loathe Tucker Carlson, but I pretty much agree with this in its entirety:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10284169/#051212a
"Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that’s the best you can do."
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― Terry A. Davis
FUCK OFF REPSo... Who Wants Smasht? wrote:im crying and i cant stop, these people on fox news explaining what he went through with no emotion! i cant believe what they did to him , it is a sad night, i pray for his soul and pray for the governor, for having to deal with the death of a innocent man , his blood is in his hands.Tookie you where brave, and now you are an angel, like the bible says you confess your sins and the lord will forgive you and you will enter the gates of the heavan. and that is will he will be. May you rest in peace, thank you for giving us hope,
I have first handedly seen police do foul things to cover up their mistakes and make others look innocent/guility. I hope he rests in peace and I will laugh for eternity if the people who wanted him executed see him in heaven. Atleast he did do some good while he was still here. With the new evidence that was presented I really think that they should have allowed him a little more time, but executing him all goes along with the covering up type thing.
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Aren't you a neuroscientist, Canis?
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good read. I pretty much agree with him.riddla wrote:I usually loathe Tucker Carlson, but I pretty much agree with this in its entirety:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10284169/#051212a
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i'm watching this interview with tookie 2 weeks prior to his death:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl? ... /30/153247
he's an extremely articulate man, and either innocent, or a very good liar.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl? ... /30/153247
he's an extremely articulate man, and either innocent, or a very good liar.