As of tomorrow you can't smoke in bars&rest.+.08%alcool.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:11 am

Imagine, we already weren't allowed to smoke in a public place or at the office for awhile now and now this. What do you think about this, is it the same in your country?
+ if you have an alcotest of more then .08% you spend the night in the jail county and go in front of the court the next day, well that is if it is before friday or should you be caught on a friday, you will spend the whole weekend in the city jail till monday.
We have a type of organism that take care of you during the Christmass time. If you are too drunk to drive, they will drive you home in your car for a donation. They just now decided to do it all year long. About time, I mean good initiative.

Post by **Scourge** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:13 am

They tried that shit here a little while back. It didn't get very far.

edit: btw, I haven't smoked in almost 5 months.

Post by **bitWISE** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:15 am

Most cities in Ohio do not allow smoking indoors.

Post by **-Replicant-** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:16 am

thats the way it is here in NY. its bloody great for non-smokers, IMO

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:16 am

scourge34 wrote:They tried that shit here a little while back. It didn't get very far.

Imagine when you are working on the 17Th floor of a major building and have to go outside to smoke a cig in your 15 mnts brake?

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:16 am

i think it's great.

time for you to quit pete. you are enslaved to a deadly master. do it for yourself and do it for society and do it for your petit lapin

Post by **Pooinyourmouth** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:17 am

It's been like that for years here in california.

Post by **Scourge** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:18 am

I agree about not smoking in restaurants and the like, but most people who go to bars smoke, at least around here anyway.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:20 am

scourge34 wrote:They tried that shit here a little while back. It didn't get very far.

edit: btw, I haven't smoked in almost 5 months.

What's your trick, how did you quit? I would love to quit, beers is enought.

Post by **tnf** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:23 am

Yea, they passed that here last year...at first all the bars went on about how it would run them out of business, but it hasn't had the impacts they thought it would. A lot of places built covered, outdoor smoking areas because there is some leeway on the part of the law about being 25 feet from the doors. I hate cigarette smoke, so this made me happy....but I am really torn about the legal aspects of the ruling and whatnot. So, while I enjoy the fact that I can go out to a sports bar with friends to watch a game and not come home smelling like shit from the smoke, I still don't know that I agree with the ruling.

Oh well.

Post by **Scourge** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:28 am

pete wrote:
scourge34 wrote:They tried that shit here a little while back. It didn't get very far.

edit: btw, I haven't smoked in almost 5 months.
What's your trick, how did you quit? I would love to quit, beers is enought.

I just threw them away and never picked up another one.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:34 am

Unnecessary, best kept of the books.

I don't like to be around smokers, but this is needlessly burdensome for restaurants and bars in particular. Smokers can be successfully segregated from non-smokers in restaurants without sharing much of the same air. Though I grant that for bars this probably is unworkable and they'll either be entirely smoking (majority of them) or non-smoking (the rest).

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:39 am

GOOD NEWS

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:47 am

tnf wrote:Yea, they passed that here last year...at first all the bars went on about how it would run them out of business, but it hasn't had the impacts they thought it would.

It's in their interest to exaggerate the burden such a law would place upon them, but even so I don't see sufficient justification for this.

my 2¢.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:53 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:GOOD NEWS

I swear I was against and I am still against smoking. I read books about all the "exiting" things, coffe, cig, grass...
I read what it does in the brains and all when I was like 14 16 YO. A time when I didn't use any except for coffe.
I have been smoking for nearly 15Y now, same time all of my surrounding family and friends quited. Wonder if that was because I lacked the second hand smoke they used to give me.

Post by **SoM** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:57 am

i'm the cancer boi, gonna smoke where i want..

there should be a non smoking ban on ppl who dont smoke..

lol

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:00 am

Post by **bitWISE** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:17 am

Why not ban drinking since drunk driver's kill so many people?

Post by **Dave** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:05 am

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Post by **FragaGeddon** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:27 am

pete wrote:
scourge34 wrote:They tried that shit here a little while back. It didn't get very far.
Imagine when you are working on the 17Th floor of a major building and have to go outside to smoke a cig in your 15 mnts brake?

Just hang out a window, problem solved.

Post by **Grudge** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:59 am

They passed that kind of law here last summer. It's been great.

Post by **LawL** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:04 am

It just makes everyone in pubs smoke and drink out on the street.

Post by **Canis** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:05 am

I dont think folks should be allowed to smoke in any enclosed public area, or in any place where non-smokers would be inconvenienced by the smoke.

Post by **Grudge** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:10 am

Yeah, that's basically the law they passed here, smoking is restricted in all indoor public areas, including bars and restaurants.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:13 am

Canis wrote:I dont think folks should be allowed to smoke in any enclosed public area, or in any place where non-smokers would be inconvenienced by the smoke.

Businesses are enclosed private areas. If the enclosed space is publicly owned and operated then I would tend to agree.