Reinstalling DX 9c and SP2 Qs

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:43 am

Anyone have issues reinstalling DX9c? is it "bad" to just reinstall it?

And SP2, ive "heard" that its possible my "poor" direct X performance could be due to SP2, and i should downgrade to SP1.. now, color (colour) me ignorant, but is that REALLY a huge issue? or should i seriously consider downgrading to sp1..

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:27 am

Here goes nothing.. uninstalling SP2..

Post by **Psyche911** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:28 am

I don't know what to tell ya.
I never noticed a difference with SP2 over SP1.

If you do notice a difference, it'll be due to a reformat, probably.

I even made a slipstream SP2 install. Handy.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:36 am

Psyche911 wrote:I don't know what to tell ya.
I never noticed a difference with SP2 over SP1.

If you do notice a difference, it'll be due to a reformat, probably.

I even made a slipstream SP2 install. Handy.

Just formatted.. its a fresh install.. -_-

stupid ass nvidia bullshit.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:54 am

And I just got my hands on an OCZ PowerStream for $85 shipped. w00t

Granted it's only 420 watts, but as I wont be going SLI, that should be plenty. It's replacing my 430 watt Enermax. lol

I figure once I sell the Enermax (great PSU, but low on features and only a 20-pin connection) it should cost me under $20.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:27 am

Psyche911 wrote:And I just got my hands on an OCZ PowerStream for $85 shipped. w00t

Granted it's only 420 watts, but as I wont be going SLI, that should be plenty. It's replacing my 430 watt Enermax. lol

I figure once I sell the Enermax (great PSU, but low on features and only a 20-pin connection) it should cost me under $20.

coo.. i just put a 480 purepower TT in mine.. heavy ass PSU..

Fuck, i hate nvidia right now.. -_-

Post by **Psyche911** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:28 am

How poor is your "poor performance" exactly?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:32 am

he's not even sure it's "poor". he only "heard" that it could be because of sp2. is that "bad"? or "what"?

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:33 am

Psyche911 wrote:How poor is your "poor performance" exactly?

Well.. Opengl performance is great.. 68.3fps in the doom3 timedemo in 1280x1024 ultra detail..

Ut2k4.. averaging 60fps 1280x1024
HL2.. averaging 45fps 1280x1024

Mind you, in those 2 Direct3d games, my 9800pro was doing roughly the same fps.. about 10 lower in HL2..

seems its just direct3d games..

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:33 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:he's not even sure it's "poor". he only "heard" that it could be because of sp2. is that "bad"? or "what"?

no.. im damn sure its poor.. :icon33:

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:53 am

yeah.. WAY poor.. 6292 in 3dmark 2003.

-_-

should be way closer to 10k with my setup..

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:04 pm

So yeah.. was running this MSI neo board.. decided hey what the fuck. lets put the ol IC-7G back in, format and rerun 3dmark..

pow 11000 in 03..

FUCK YOU MSI..

im NEVER buying a MSI board again..

Post by **4g3nt_Smith** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:41 pm

Considering I've personally never heard of anything about MSI (Or the other company whose board you're now using) I doesn't really surprise me.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:44 pm

lol
You've never heard of MSI or Abit?

SOAP:
I SERIOUSLY doubt it's the board.
Check your RAM timings, check your divider, pull up CPU-Z with each of them in Windows and compare what it sees the settings are.

There must be something set up wrong on the MSI. They're good boards.

Post by **Kills On Site** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:30 pm

So you put the ABit IC7-G back in and it works better? My question is whyd you take it out, it is an awesome board. I guess you don't have to hate nVIDIA now, w00t :P

Post by **shadd_.** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:37 pm

hmm, my msi board is flawless. 25% oc on the cpu(2.5ghz), tight ram timings. i'm forgetting what the bios looks like it's been so long since i had to do anything there.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:20 pm

SOAPboy wrote:So yeah.. was running this MSI neo board.. decided hey what the fuck. lets put the ol IC-7G back in, format and rerun 3dmark..

pow 11000 in 03..

FUCK YOU MSI..

im NEVER buying a MSI board again..

LIES! i got the K8N Nero 2... she is amazing!

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:16 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:So yeah.. was running this MSI neo board.. decided hey what the fuck. lets put the ol IC-7G back in, format and rerun 3dmark..

pow 11000 in 03..

FUCK YOU MSI..

im NEVER buying a MSI board again..
LIES! i got the K8N Nero 2... she is amazing!

TRUTH!

no seriously..

shadd_. wrote:hmm, my msi board is flawless. 25% oc on the cpu(2.5ghz), tight ram timings. i'm forgetting what the bios looks like it's been so long since i had to do anything there.

Yep, as was my last MSI board...

Kills On Site wrote:So you put the ABit IC7-G back in and it works better? My question is whyd you take it out, it is an awesome board. I guess you don't have to hate nVIDIA now, w00t :P

lmfao.. because i didnt know if it was working right or not.. was having crashes before.. turns out it was just the PSU..

Psyche911 wrote:lol
You've never heard of MSI or Abit?

SOAP:
I SERIOUSLY doubt it's the board.
Check your RAM timings, check your divider, pull up CPU-Z with each of them in Windows and compare what it sees the settings are.

There must be something set up wrong on the MSI. They're good boards.

it was the board..

Ram timings, fine, in fact, identical on the abit board..
i had the MSI set up same timings for everything.. that board is just a POS..

Post by **Kills On Site** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:01 pm

Well good to know you are getting the performance you deserve from your 6800GT. I have worked with 3 ABit boards and love them all. I am glad your IC7-G is working well again. For a comparison of what your 6800GT should be getting I copied my post from the nVIDIA driver topic:

AMD Athlon XP 2.4 GHz
512 x2 Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6
BFG Tech 6800GT OC - default 20MHz core OC
Western Digital SATA 74GB Raptor
ABit AN7

nVIDIA 66.93
3dMarks03 - 11051
3dMarks05 - 4684
D3 timedemo1 1152x864 High detail - 76.2

nVIDIA 71.84
3dMarks03 – 11085
3dMArks05 – 4990
D3 timedemo1 1152x864 High detail – 79.2

I definatly recommend the newest nVIDIA drivers to you.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:13 pm

Kills On Site wrote:Well good to know you are getting the performance you deserve from your 6800GT. I have worked with 3 ABit boards and love them all. I am glad your IC7-G is working well again. For a comparison of what your 6800GT should be getting I copied my post from the nVIDIA driver topic:

AMD Athlon XP 2.4 GHz
512 x2 Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6
BFG Tech 6800GT OC - default 20MHz core OC
Western Digital SATA 74GB Raptor
ABit AN7

nVIDIA 66.93
3dMarks03 - 11051
3dMarks05 - 4684
D3 timedemo1 1152x864 High detail - 76.2

nVIDIA 71.84
3dMarks03 – 11085
3dMArks05 – 4990
D3 timedemo1 1152x864 High detail – 79.2

I definatly recommend the newest nVIDIA drivers to you.

Running them..

my actual score was 10998

so id say, pretty decent.. and right where it should be..

^_^

Post by **Bicofborg** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:07 pm

I noticed a difference between SP1 and SP2, after re-installing SP2 I had to format my HD and re-install XP because it´s a pile of crap.

Post by **Tormentius** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:02 am

They rewrote a huge chunk of the underlying OS and increased the security by a large margin. Hard a pile of crap in my books.

Post by **Kills On Site** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:26 am

IIRC I actually saw a slight, very slight, but I saw an improvment in performance with SP2, of course I installed DX9.0c before I installed SP2.