I too have problems sleeping. At my flat I couldn't sleep well for ages, I would go to bed to sleep and wake up every 3 hours or so. I went back home for my holiday and I slept very well.
I then went to a music festival and camping in a 5 man tent surrounded by 10's of thousands of people up all night I slept better there than I did at my flat.
Personally I think a lot of sleeping problems come from a troubled mind..
Just can't sleep
In response to some of the questions:
Yes, I feel sleepy during the day. Work is great. No stress at all. I love my supervisor. I sit right next to her and she's great to work with. Home is fine. The only thing I can think of is I'm still having some issues with the Grave's disease.
I don't lift heavier weights because I don't want to buy more to have at home. I lift heavier when I'm at the gym.
I won't be taking up dope smoking. I've tried it a couple of times and didn't like it.
ps: I slept about 2 hours last night.
Yes, I feel sleepy during the day. Work is great. No stress at all. I love my supervisor. I sit right next to her and she's great to work with. Home is fine. The only thing I can think of is I'm still having some issues with the Grave's disease.
I don't lift heavier weights because I don't want to buy more to have at home. I lift heavier when I'm at the gym.
I won't be taking up dope smoking. I've tried it a couple of times and didn't like it.
ps: I slept about 2 hours last night.
how about a boost of B vitamens during the day like Barocca or something similar? I take these almost daily when traveling to help wiht jet lag. BReaking day time sleepiness can help with night time rest.
its extreme how many people cant sleep properly. Feeling guilty?? (jk)
its extreme how many people cant sleep properly. Feeling guilty?? (jk)
"Liberty, what crimes are committed in your name."
I've not had sleep trouble that bad so I'm not sure any of this will help, but here's a canned list of bits and pieces I've picked up. Some of its probably old wives material:
- Some people can't fall asleep without total sensory deprivation (no light, no noise), but there's another group who can't fall asleep without some stimulus. I an firmly in one group and I know a number of people who are firmly in the other one.
- Light can be a problem that's not immediately apparent, especially (for me) blue lights. In an otherwise dark room a faint blue light will keep me awake. I went round and stuck some black masking tape over clock displays, LEDs, and any other light sources I could find. The laptop I'm typing this on still has one over the bluetooth LED. So does my alarm clock.
- I read somewhere that when people get older and start taking shorter, more frequent periods of sleep, that this is actually due to them becoming more sensitive to external stimulus and this wakes them up more.
Those are all focusing on external interference stuff but whenever I've had sleep issues I've always fixed them (or placebo'd myself into believing I've fixed them) by addressing external light + sound issues.
There's other stuff to consider like eating + drinking in relation to bedtime, and habits.
One other thing I learned is that I got a real nasty set of habits with my alarm clock. When I had a beeper alarm, I'd be subconsciously afraid of the stress of being woken up by it, so I'd awake before it went off, or keep waking up to check on the time. The end result was that I'd get up on time, but I'd be getting a shitty nights sleep because of the alarm. Counterproductive. Likewise, if i canned the alarm and went on instinct, I'd be checking the clock regularly to make sure I didn't oversleep... same end effect.
In the end I solved that one with a radio alarm clock tuned to a jazz channel, and set to just loud enough to wake me up gently. The difference it made was pretty noticeable.
- Some people can't fall asleep without total sensory deprivation (no light, no noise), but there's another group who can't fall asleep without some stimulus. I an firmly in one group and I know a number of people who are firmly in the other one.
- Light can be a problem that's not immediately apparent, especially (for me) blue lights. In an otherwise dark room a faint blue light will keep me awake. I went round and stuck some black masking tape over clock displays, LEDs, and any other light sources I could find. The laptop I'm typing this on still has one over the bluetooth LED. So does my alarm clock.
- I read somewhere that when people get older and start taking shorter, more frequent periods of sleep, that this is actually due to them becoming more sensitive to external stimulus and this wakes them up more.
Those are all focusing on external interference stuff but whenever I've had sleep issues I've always fixed them (or placebo'd myself into believing I've fixed them) by addressing external light + sound issues.
There's other stuff to consider like eating + drinking in relation to bedtime, and habits.
One other thing I learned is that I got a real nasty set of habits with my alarm clock. When I had a beeper alarm, I'd be subconsciously afraid of the stress of being woken up by it, so I'd awake before it went off, or keep waking up to check on the time. The end result was that I'd get up on time, but I'd be getting a shitty nights sleep because of the alarm. Counterproductive. Likewise, if i canned the alarm and went on instinct, I'd be checking the clock regularly to make sure I didn't oversleep... same end effect.
In the end I solved that one with a radio alarm clock tuned to a jazz channel, and set to just loud enough to wake me up gently. The difference it made was pretty noticeable.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm definitely not getting enough B vitamens. I'm going to look for a better vitamen/mineral supplement tomorrow.
I usually ride my bike in the morning before it gets too hot out.
ek, I get home from work about 1:45am. I try to be in bed by 2 am so I don't eat, drink (unless it's some water) or do exercise. I'll watch a few minutes of tv or look at a magazine before turning out the lights to wind down.
I usually ride my bike in the morning before it gets too hot out.
ek, I get home from work about 1:45am. I try to be in bed by 2 am so I don't eat, drink (unless it's some water) or do exercise. I'll watch a few minutes of tv or look at a magazine before turning out the lights to wind down.
and being alone, sound to me that you enjoy company even if it's just surrounding company....or maybe those bed matress commercials are not just all talk.DiscoDave wrote:I too have problems sleeping. At my flat I couldn't sleep well for ages, I would go to bed to sleep and wake up every 3 hours or so. I went back home for my holiday and I slept very well.
I then went to a music festival and camping in a 5 man tent surrounded by 10's of thousands of people up all night I slept better there than I did at my flat.
Personally I think a lot of sleeping problems come from a troubled mind..
I cant sleep without the TV on. Theres nothing my mind can conjure up except bad thoughts when its not on.Tsakali_ wrote:and being alone, sound to me that you enjoy company even if it's just surrounding company....or maybe those bed matress commercials are not just all talk.DiscoDave wrote:I too have problems sleeping. At my flat I couldn't sleep well for ages, I would go to bed to sleep and wake up every 3 hours or so. I went back home for my holiday and I slept very well.
I then went to a music festival and camping in a 5 man tent surrounded by 10's of thousands of people up all night I slept better there than I did at my flat.
Personally I think a lot of sleeping problems come from a troubled mind..
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JooKed wrote:I cant sleep without the TV on. Theres nothing my mind can conjure up except bad thoughts when its not on.Tsakali_ wrote:and being alone, sound to me that you enjoy company even if it's just surrounding company....or maybe those bed matress commercials are not just all talk.DiscoDave wrote:I too have problems sleeping. At my flat I couldn't sleep well for ages, I would go to bed to sleep and wake up every 3 hours or so. I went back home for my holiday and I slept very well.
I then went to a music festival and camping in a 5 man tent surrounded by 10's of thousands of people up all night I slept better there than I did at my flat.
Personally I think a lot of sleeping problems come from a troubled mind..
seek help.
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heh I know what you mean, no matter how busy you keep yourself during the day, there will always be that unavoidable brief moment before you go to sleep that all the thaughts you kindly push to the side come into focus forcefullyJooKed wrote:I cant sleep without the TV on. Theres nothing my mind can conjure up except bad thoughts when its not on.Tsakali_ wrote:and being alone, sound to me that you enjoy company even if it's just surrounding company....or maybe those bed matress commercials are not just all talk.DiscoDave wrote:I too have problems sleeping. At my flat I couldn't sleep well for ages, I would go to bed to sleep and wake up every 3 hours or so. I went back home for my holiday and I slept very well.
I then went to a music festival and camping in a 5 man tent surrounded by 10's of thousands of people up all night I slept better there than I did at my flat.
Personally I think a lot of sleeping problems come from a troubled mind..