Well hell may be freezing over (workout)

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Don Carlos wrote:To try and get this back on topic after Geoff has been anally abused...

Tomorrow I start interval training properly (as properly as I can manage it anyway). I am going to aim for 1.5km @ 14kph which is not amazingly quick, but quick enough to work me hard given my current shape. I will then rest for a minute and smash in 1km on the rowing machine - looking for a sub 4 minute time at full resistance. Then back to the runner for another 1km at 14kph and then another 1km on the rower. Then it is off to the mat area for sit up, push ups and squats.

Any of your health gurus give me any idea if this will be good for fat burning which is what I am looking for at the moment

Cheers :)
The point of interval training is to train the energy systems of the body for recovery and to allow accumulated periods of extremely high intensity work greater than a sustained effort. Additionally, the whole thing about "fat burning HR zones" is a myth. If you want to lose weight, the absolutely best, most effective, fastest way is to be at a calorie deficit. You do that by burning the most calories, and high intensity cardio is the best way. If you're worried about losing muscle, keep doing your lifts 2-3x a week with 2-5rm weights, you'll be able to keep most of your strength as long as you keep lifting for strength.
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Fat burning heartrate zones are definitely not a myth. There are hundreds of studies that show it, and the most recent I can remember concluded out of 36 subjects that maximal fat oxidation occurs between 50% and 60% V02max. The percentage allowed for individual variations in physiology.

The very fact that the body has three sources of potential energy, as well as gluconeogenesis proves pretty conclusively that there are optimal rates for burning fat.
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Duhard wrote:did some geneza d-bol 2 years ago too and it was great...but this balkan stuff is just amazing...poor country or not I don't give a crap...new horizons await kid, the ownage has just begun!
Do you know, everything about you just nauseates me. I did my best to try and talk to you as a human being, to not judge you. But you really are just a complete piece of shit.
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Yeahso wrote:Fat burning heartrate zones are definitely not a myth. There are hundreds of studies that show it, and the most recent I can remember concluded out of 36 subjects that maximal fat oxidation occurs between 50% and 60% V02max. The percentage allowed for individual variations in physiology.

The very fact that the body has three sources of potential energy, as well as gluconeogenesis proves pretty conclusively that there are optimal rates for burning fat.
That you can directly utilize lipids as fuel is not a myth. That it's the fastest, or best way, to lose weight, is the myth.
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There's a lot of science that says you're wrong. I dare say there's a lot of science that says you're right, too, but common sense says it's possible to optimise fat oxidation.

Perhaps it's different for people carrying extreme mass; an extra physiological imperative.

When I was dieting, anything too harsh on my heartrate stripped muscle right off me. I diet in ketosis, and if I did anything more than walk for my cardio, my strength and size would decrease rapidly. Fat loss increased at about the same rate.

I'm not claiming that as my science, just an anecdotal viewpoint. For me personally, and a lot of bodybuilders, high intensity cardio is a quick route to muscle wastage. There are also plenty of studies that support a 50-60% v02max as optimal for fat loss and anti-catabolism of muscle tissue and prevention of cortisol increase.
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Yeahso wrote:Do you know, everything about you just nauseates me. I did my best to try and talk to you as a human being, to not judge you. But you really are just a complete piece of shit.
What makes you think I need your 'advice' in the first place...what are you, the global expert on everything illegal and underground? Like I told you el shorto, you can cram your mental midget advice up your as until you reach daylight. I'm the man around here. You're 5'6'' dude :olo:

The only time I may need your 'advice' is if one of my whores need to buy another pair of high heels....until then, you can suck my indecisive ass crack and feel the wrath of aftermath :olo:
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good times on d-bol...never felt so great in 32 years...week 17 here we go :olo:
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Image

...saw a short guy a few hours ago at the gym...was that u?
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Yeahso wrote:There's a lot of science that says you're wrong. I dare say there's a lot of science that says you're right, too, but common sense says it's possible to optimise fat oxidation.

Perhaps it's different for people carrying extreme mass; an extra physiological imperative.

When I was dieting, anything too harsh on my heartrate stripped muscle right off me. I diet in ketosis, and if I did anything more than walk for my cardio, my strength and size would decrease rapidly. Fat loss increased at about the same rate.

I'm not claiming that as my science, just an anecdotal viewpoint. For me personally, and a lot of bodybuilders, high intensity cardio is a quick route to muscle wastage. There are also plenty of studies that support a 50-60% v02max as optimal for fat loss and anti-catabolism of muscle tissue and prevention of cortisol increase.
Well, if you diet in Ketosis, are you also at a calorie deficit? How much of a deficit a day, 500, 1000? If you're not at anything crazy (-1000 kcal) and you're still doing low rep heavy weight work a few times a week, you really shouldn't lose much muscle at all.
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lol @ the retard seeking advice on msgboards...get out of here you weakling before I get mad...
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Duhard wrote:any of you morons can tell the difference between methandrostenolone and methandienone?cause everytime some moron sold me methandrostenolone it was shitty d-bol...what's the scoop?
Duhard wrote:lol @ the retard seeking advice on msgboards...get out of here you weakling before I get mad...

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I was simply testing your no knowledge...so far all I see are a bunch of weak midgets who don't have a clue what a real man's training looks like and only brag about whatever steroid cocktail they have found on the internet and pretend they know their shit. laughable...but expected.
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Duhard wrote:I was simply testing your no knowledge...so far all I see are a bunch of weak midgets who don't have a clue what a real man's training looks like and only brag about whatever steroid cocktail they have found on the internet and pretend they know their shit. laughable...but expected.
Real men do 17 week dbol cycles and squat 380.

Holy Jesus, you're a fucking joke.

Post a picture.
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don't be mad...I'm just that damn fucking good, kid.
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Duhard wrote:5'6'' :olo:
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Duhard wrote:don't be mad...I'm just that damn fucking good, kid.
Why won't you post a picture?

Is it because, as has been the case for the last ten years, you're an insecure, pathological liar with relationship-building issues who uses an internet gaming forum to act out his alpha-male fantasies?

It's probably that.
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no...it's not your own fantasies, I can't take a picture right now...stop crying and get in line, my pictorial's coming up and you're going bye-bye.

P.S. You're short
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Duhard wrote:I'd love to connect with some of you, but I have trouble communicating with others, because I'm weak, nervous, desperately insecure, and I'm worried if you see the real me, you won't like me. I keep up this decade-old internet persona in the hope that none of you will get too close and discover how lonely I am. I boast of a fictitious physical and sexual prowess because really I'm just a 32 year old ugly boggle-eyed faux-frenchman who's in the same place he was 10 years ago, and it pains me to see that most of you have moved on, bought houses, got married and basically left my world behind. It made my day when I saw the thread asking me where I was, but when I arrived, I found that most people just found me a bit peculiar. God I wish I had the guts to just open up and stop all the lies.
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wow the 5'6'' dude is now reduced to quote editing because of the massive ownage I just unleashed on his fragile self-esteem...I don't blame you captain obvious...it must suck being a midget in a world of giants :olo:
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Duhard wrote:no...it's not your own fantasies, I can't take a picture right now...stop crying and get in line, my pictorial's coming up and you're going bye-bye.

P.S. You're short
Of course you can't take a picture right now. You won't be able to take a picture for months, because you're a tiny little husk of a man. Everything you've said in this thread has been a complete lie, since you have always been a liar, and there will never be a point when you post any pictures. Your only picture to date was around 8 years ago when you posted a crop of your wimpy, skinny little pigeon chest.

All we'll get in this thread is all we've got for 10 years. Transparent bravado and pathological lies.
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Duhard wrote:wow the 5'6'' dude is now reduced to quote editing because of the massive ownage I just unleashed on his fragile self-esteem...I don't blame you captain obvious...it must suck being a midget in a world of giants :olo:
380 squat on a 17 week dbol cycle lol

Post a picture, Conan.
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Duhard wrote:wow the 5'6'' dude is now reduced to quote editing because of the massive ownage I just unleashed on his fragile self-esteem...I don't blame you captain obvious...it must suck being a midget in a world of giants :olo:
Duhard wrote:
Yeahso wrote:Image

Me in 2007 before my final cycle. I was about 210lb here. Not sure if my phone has resized the image, it should be about 600pixels wide.
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Also, how do I get my name changed back to sys0p? My old account still seems to be in some kind of limbo.
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sorry no wanking for you tonight my favorite hobbit...now sit down we've been watching you having a meltdown ever since I started destroying this thread...
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The integrity of this once fine thread has been destroyed by your lies.

Not having a grainy phone picture of yourself in 2011? Only in bullshitville.
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