Quake 4 "Pak 9" Question

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:39 pm

I'm having trouble reading the textures in this pak, anybody else? They will extract and whatnot, but i cant seem to load them in PS/PSP.

Are they some kind of special texture? TIA

Post by **shiznit** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:08 pm

What's the extention of the textures?

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:40 pm

shiznit wrote:What's the extention of the textures?

.dds

I think these may be the deluxe maps because they appear to be skins of some kind...

Post by **rgoer** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:46 pm

those are the precompressed textures (the dds images get used instead of targas on lower quality settings)

there are no fucking deluxe maps in this game you twit

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:48 pm

rgoer wrote:those are the precompressed textures (the dds images get used instead of targas on lower quality settings)

there are no fucking deluxe maps in this game you twit

Ahh, i was told by somebody a while back there was for some reason...

So you really DO just use ambient lighting most of the time?

Post by **rgoer** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:49 pm

no, ambient is used very sparingly (I don't think it's used at all in single-player)

it's just doom lighting

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:28 pm

rgoer wrote:no, ambient is used very sparingly (I don't think it's used at all in single-player)

it's just doom lighting

So why the brightnes of some places wit ha lack of shadows... Hmmmmm...

The only way i've gotten the same results in both doom 3 and q2e is smaller point lights around light sources and then a lot of ambient lighting... I'll have to load up the maps later and check.

Post by **Method** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:32 pm

.dds are bumpmaps and can be viewed with Nvidia tools:

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/nv_t ... tools.html

-Method

Post by **Oeloe** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:25 pm

Hmm. I'm 100% sure i had a Q3 map with an extra high quality pk3 with .dds files in it. So Q3 already supported dds?

Post by **Fender** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:02 pm

Oeloe wrote:Hmm. I'm 100% sure i had a Q3 map with an extra high quality pk3 with .dds files in it. So Q3 already supported dds?

No. That was a special build of Q3 from Savage (?) to show off their texture compression. Eventually, that became part of the Direct3D library and a standard in OpenGL. IIRC, the dds textures have the mipmaps stored in the file as well as the full resolution texture.

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:15 pm

Method wrote:.dds are bumpmaps and can be viewed with Nvidia tools:

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/nv_t ... tools.html

-Method

Dont you think i know what a dds is?

Post by **Method** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:47 pm

"Are they some kind of special texture?"

I assumed you didn't. Sorry for misunderstanding.

-Method