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oh god, that was awful

What was Dawkins doing wasting his time on this stephord soccermom relifreak, he could have sent like two emails in those ten minutes... or done some dishes.
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My favorite part is the creationist demanding real evidence, not just words and drawings in a book :olo:
Ryoki wrote:oh god, that was awful

What was Dawkins doing wasting his time on this stephord soccermom relifreak, he could have sent like two emails in those ten minutes... or done some dishes.
10 minutes? It was closer to an hour in full.
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please tell me you didn't watch an hour of that shit
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It was like a train wreck. I couldn't look away.
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Why don't we get all the religious people in one place with fliers claiming "Free Bibles" and then nuke the site from orbit?

It's the only way to be sure.
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Fender wrote:It was like a train wreck. I couldn't look away.
Me either. I watched all 7 parts. I'm surprised Dawkins was able to remain patient through the "evidence" requests.


"If we had evolved from ooze, then there would be MOUNTAINS of evidence of evolution from one species to another. Why isn't there?"

"There is mountains of evidence. Let me name off quite a few pieces of evidence right now, and tell you exactly where you can go to see each of them..."

**a couple of minutes pass**

"If we had evolved from ooze, then there would be MOUNTAINS of evidence of evolution from one species to another. Why isn't there?"

"There is mountains of evidence. Let me name off quite a few pieces of evidence right now, and tell you exactly where you can go to see each of them..."

**a couple of minutes pass**

"If we had evolved from ooze, then there would be MOUNTAINS of evidence of evolution from one species to another. Why isn't there?"

"There is mountains of evidence. Let me name off quite a few pieces of evidence right now, and tell you exactly where you can go to see each of them..."


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

And I can't believe Dawkins didn't ask, "Since you are obviously very concerned about evidence, where exactly is the evidence that the DNA in your body was created by the god of the bible? And by your standards this has to be hard, material evidence - not just pictures or drawings or writings in a book."
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I think his angle with this interview was to simply show people how just how illogical her point of view is. I thought of a lot of contradictions I would have pointed out, or even things I would have said in general. But I think he knew he wasn't changing her mind and was able to make her look like a total moron by letting her do all the work.

I think our parents and grandparents unleashed a monster by empowering us so much. Like I said in another thread, everyone feels entitled to be right simply because they say they are. The declining state of our educational system and overall literacy is making this even worse by giving people a totally incorrect definition of science, logic, and many other terms.
seremtan wrote:please tell me you didn't watch an hour of that shit
I listened to it while at work. It was worth it just hearing those points where you could tell he wanted to punch her right in the throat. Towards the end it got even worse because she started laughing at him randomly while he was explaining things to her.
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R00k wrote:
And I can't believe Dawkins didn't ask, "Since you are obviously very concerned about evidence, where exactly is the evidence that the DNA in your body was created by the god of the bible? And by your standards this has to be hard, material evidence - not just pictures or drawings or writings in a book."
lol

Amen.
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R00k wrote:And I can't believe Dawkins didn't ask, "Since you are obviously very concerned about evidence, where exactly is the evidence that the DNA in your body was created by the god of the bible? And by your standards this has to be hard, material evidence - not just pictures or drawings or writings in a book."
Yeah, there were definitely a couple parts like that where he could have nailed her to the cross, so to speak, with better rebuttals. However, there were a few instances where you could actually see her face go sort of blank when she realized that his point was salient and rational and completely contradicted her views. Then she punted back to her scripted lines about mountains of evidence and how social darwinism is a horrible thing.
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Yea, a couple of times that brief blank stare made me wonder if she had just (perhaps for the first time in her adult life) questioned something she believed.

It didn't last long though.
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The woman also has a very annoying way of talking. Like Dawkins is some kind of small child and she's belittling him.
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oh comeon now

this long title is a real drag!

on a friday?!

fender maybe i'll let this shit spell check my posts 4 the rest of the day ! ey u'v said my spelling dis-aids u in understanding my posts right?

i fix letter orientation u fix fung shwayze!
it is about time!
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I want to walk into her Sunday school/fellowship/Bible study or whatever and ask why they don't teach science or evolution or Pastafarian Creationism.
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obsidian wrote:and ask why they don't teach science or evolution or Pastafarian Creationism.
My best bet would be that she was told to act like that as a clown by her boss who handles money to control people by confusing them.
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here we go again
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i couldn't even watch that for more than 10 min without wanting dawkins to punch her in the face.
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